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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:10 am 
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Hi, does anyone have any info, topo for the Black Hill area near Glencairn? Saw it market on the Cutloose site.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:05 pm 
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There is definitely a topo for that area, but cant find it online any where either....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:59 pm 
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rangers have been known to chase climbers away from there as well. they are treating it as an extension of redhill, and so the ban applies. if they catch you, they will charge you with straying from the path, for which they can give you a written warning (that gets noted in their records) or up to a R500 fine, depending on the mood of the ranger. just so you know....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:45 pm 
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Well that's pretty stupid as the Black Hill area has been designated for horse riding.
In case you didn't know; horses = extensive erosion. Most of the boulders there are just off the path anyway.
I really don't understand the mentality, maybe if we asked to build an accompanying R54m luxury building they might reconsider? :thumright


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:45 am 
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Yea that's reality... the less popular sports/activities will always suffer. Mostly because the people involved doesn't care to try and understand it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:25 am 
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tell me about it, sigh. and it seems that most of the rangers get that at least, and look terribly uncomfortable about enforcing the 'law'. the last ranger i spoke to hinted at sanparks looking to curb all bouldering in the peninsula on their land.. things arent looking good. i forsee many issues on the horizon...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:19 am 
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Seemingly the only way to get around this is to have the Environmental Management Plan for Bouldering in the Red Hill Sector of Table Mountain National Park approved. Anyone know what is happening with this document?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:13 pm 
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Yea everyone is waiting with much anticipation on that outcome...
Would be great if there was something we could do to help.
It would be a sad day if they try to ban bouldering. I understand that they need to regulate impact but they also need to encourage the appreciation for the outdoors.

Even if they charge a fee for a permit or something... as long as we can still get to the places we love. Surely there is a solution that both parties will be happy with??

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:18 pm 
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TMNP are probably a black hole. sucks everything in, never to be seen again.

at some point we probably need to just ignore the ban. or do a mass protest a la Chapmans Peak Drive.

read: ‘Jou ma se office block’
http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/jou-ma-se-office-block-1.1218159


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:32 pm 
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So, i have the maps for this place, finally, if any one wants, send email...and i will forward it to you... as for the ban, well....i have a headlamp... :bom:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:12 pm 
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Dude I don't know if you are serious or just messing around, but a lot of people put a lot of effort into the negotiations and the fact that the most of the climbing community has stayed clear has counted in favour of the community.

Don't mess it up just because you can.


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