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 Post subject: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:39 am 
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So what's all this fuss surrounding Chappies?

So they have to erect a building to accommodate the smooth running of the toll.
Surely no one would object to rest rooms, or are plastic porta-loo's preferential to concrete ones..

Has anyone considered the road itself?
That's one big bloody ugly concrete structure and tar road cutting through the mountainside. Should we tear that up too. What about the buildings associated with the Table Mountain cableway, not to mention the cableway itself.

Not that I'm 100% behind it, but from what I understand it's set in stone and if permission is denied it would be considered a breach of contract and large sums would have to be paid out.

As long as they're as discreet as possible with it's location I really think this has all been blown way out of proportion.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 am 
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In a nutshell:

It will be one of the most exclusive offices in the country, in a national park, with views overlooking Hout Bay and the Atlantic.

Entilini has spent R1.6 million on the preliminary design, and has been reimbursed by the province. Final design fees will be R5.7m. The external lighting will cost R1.8m. The public will pay R25m of the total R54m for the office and toll plaza.

National parks are protected by tough laws and only a resolution by Parliament can withdraw any section of one. In this case, the Western Cape government changed the boundary of the Chapman’s Peak Drive road reserve to include over 2 000m2 of Table Mountain National Park. The office will be built on part of this land – rubber-stamped by SanParks.


So basically more luxury than necessity and inside National Park.
The long story:

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The authorities have carved out a piece of Table Mountain National Park on Chapman’s Peak Drive to build a luxury two-storey office for a private company.

The multimillion rand office will be used by Entilini, the company that operates the toll road.

It will be one of the most exclusive offices in the country, in a national park, with views overlooking Hout Bay and the Atlantic.

Entilini has spent R1.6 million on the preliminary design, and has been reimbursed by the province. Final design fees will be R5.7m. The external lighting will cost R1.8m. The public will pay R25m of the total R54m for the office and toll plaza.

Hout Bay residents are outraged and say building the office on park land is unlawful. They have called on Sanparks chief David Mabunda and Environment Minister Edna Molewa to halt construction immediately or they will go to court.

National parks are protected by tough laws and only a resolution by Parliament can withdraw any section of one. In this case, the Western Cape government changed the boundary of the Chapman’s Peak Drive road reserve to include over 2 000m2 of Table Mountain National Park. The office will be built on part of this land – rubber-stamped by SanParks.

There are construction huts on site and building is to start soon.

Entilini calls the office a “control building” to be built alongside the proposed four-lane toll plaza on Chapman’s Peak Drive. However, residents say the 500m2 building designed to accommodate 60 staff members is far more than that.

“It’s massive. They’ve got an HR office and a boardroom and an auditor’s office – what for? And why do we need four lanes for the toll? This isn’t Las Vegas. The existing toll booths are entirely adequate and should be left as is,” said Hout Bay Residents’ Association chairman Len Swimmer.

“They’re building this office for their own aggrandisement. Nobody can build in a national park, but they’ve been handed it on a platter. It’s on public land and the benefit to the public is zilch.”

The ground floor contains a reception area and offices for the plaza manager, secretaries, a foreman, internal auditor and human resources manager. It has a staff room with a television and SPAM, a large “control room”, cash room, technician’s workshop, archive, two cloakrooms with lavatories and showers, and two other lavatories. There is a “cash collection garage”, a large storeroom and a workshop. The office has its own sewerage plant.

The upper storey has a lobby/display area, SPAM, two cloakrooms and a storeroom, and offices for the general manager, a personal assistant and concessions manager.

Residents say the upper storey is designed for parties and functions. The concessions manager’s office has sliding doors that open into a large meeting room. This opens on to a covered terrace with a skylight. There is a “service” area. Sliding doors open on to a second terrace, covered by a pergola, that overlooks a landscaped roof terrace. There is another terrace on the roof.

Residents say allowing the block on park land was a “sweetener” from the province to Entilini for agreeing to renegotiate the concession agreement to make it less onerous on the provincial government. The office building plans have been stamped by Table Mountain National Park. Although the building will be on disturbed land, it is nevertheless in the national park.

Swimmer said: “There is plenty of vacant office space in Hout Bay they can occupy. Few people have seen these plans and when they do they will be shocked.”

Although the 2 100m2 of national park land was carved away by the stroke of a pen, this was not so when engineers wanted national park land to upgrade Hospital Bend on De Waal Drive. Then, BKS project manager Freek van Renssen told the Cape Times they had wanted to get only 75m2 of land from Table Mountain National Park to build the new Angio Road bridge. Van Renssen said then: “We tried to get it, but the Table Mountain National Park is protected by two acts of Parliament, and to get just one square metre of national park land you have to go to Parliament and change two acts. So we abandoned that.”

The Cape Times asked Transport and Public Works MEC Robin Carlisle why this was the case for national park land on one side of the peninsula but not the other. Carlisle knew no details of the Hospital Bend upgrade but said “nothing will make me believe” the proposed building was unlawful. Constructing the office required a “small incursion” into Table Mountain National Park “which was signed off by the CEO so it’s all above board”.

Lawyers acting for residents have written to authorities to say that national parks are protected at the highest level by the National Environment Management: Protected Areas Act, that a resolution of the National Assembly is required to withdraw any portion of land from a national park and that, because this has not happened, the proposed construction is unlawful.

Sanparks legal manager Sibusiso Nyembe said it was “looking at the issues”, while the Western Cape Premier’s Office wrote that it was obtaining legal advice.

Robert Pomario of Entilini Concessions did not want to comment.

l There will be a public protest march on January 22 starting at 10am from both ends of Chapman’s Peak Drive. - Cape Times


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:01 pm 
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It will be one of the most exclusive offices in the country, in a national park, with views overlooking Hout Bay and the Atlantic.

I don't know who to believe anymore, as I've heard so many conflicting stories surrounding this. Some say luxury offices, others the essentials..


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:32 pm 
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... and inevitably it will be used as a precedent at a later stage for other "necessary" or "sustainable buildings", etc in other national parks or protected areas which of course will be will then inevitably result in continued intrusions into the National Parks until there are other unnecessary developments, hotels, resorts etc etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Stu wrote:
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It will be one of the most exclusive offices in the country, in a national park, with views overlooking Hout Bay and the Atlantic.

I don't know who to believe anymore, as I've heard so many conflicting stories surrounding this. Some say luxury offices, others the essentials..


Agreed, my info is from an article as well, but I think the essence is that its a big piece of nature reserve being used for something that can probably have been planned better.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:11 pm 
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GBM wrote:
... and inevitably it will be used as a precedent at a later stage for other "necessary" or "sustainable buildings", etc in other national parks or protected areas which of course will be will then inevitably result in continued intrusions into the National Parks until there are other unnecessary developments, hotels, resorts etc etc.

I disagree -- the contract that was originally signed is the root of the problem. The entire process and end result, not only surrounding the building, but the profits and maintenance of Chappman's Peak was a complete shambles. The erection of the building is just one of many train wrecks surrounding the Chappies debacle.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 pm 
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I hope you are right Stu.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:51 pm 
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Hey Stu, don't you read the newspapers or watch the news? This is a big deal, there has been a hunger strike, people have chained themselves to the scaffolding, marches have and are happening, lawyers are involved, even the international world heritage organisation have become involved. I have followed it quite closely and it would seem that it is just anouther ridiculous waste of money that smacks of corruption!


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:04 pm 
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Yeah I have been following it, and that's kinda my point; I just think it's been blown way out of proportion is all.

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I have followed it quite closely and it would seem that it is just anouther ridiculous waste of money that smacks of corruption!

Now that's something I agree with, the people who signed the contract to begin with are the ones that should be taken to task, and measures must be put in place to ensure something like this never happens again.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:14 pm 
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I think the point people are trying to make is that if they can do this once, whats stopping them from doing it again somewhere else? People are making a stand not only against this one act but against the system and process that has allowed it.

(Just like a some of us have made the point that if you put in one bolt, it won't be long before someone puts in anouther and so on and so on.)

P.S.was only joking about the newspaper/news chirp Stu, glad you didn't take it personally.


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 Post subject: Re: Chappmans Peak - WTF
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:03 pm 
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jgb wrote:
P.S.was only joking about the newspaper/news chirp Stu, glad you didn't take it personally.

The internet..

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