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 Post subject: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:11 am 
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Hey Guys and Gals!
Myself (Jason Hayden) and Jennifer Hsieh have bought "The Farm (http://www.climbing.co.za/wiki/Climbing_on_R62 - Our own website http://www.thefarmroute62.co.za/ is a work in progress) and are in the process of getting things up and running. We are both climbers, and are hoping to develop it as a climbing Farm.

The Farm is an amazing space and copious amounts more to explore. Hermie Venter and Tony Lourens have already put up over 20 great routes on it (both trad and sports), and we're inviting climbers to come put routes up on The Farm. There is a huge potential for climbs, and we'd really be glad for you guys to come through and get inspired to get at some new lines.

We understand that bolts and hangers are not cheap so it is because of this that we have decided to sponsor bolts, hangers, drill bits and a drill to use, for anyone who wants to put up new routes. One catch though..The climbs need to be grades 19 and under….This will obviously attract more climbers to The Farm.

There are a couple of things to note before we go wild on The Farm though.
1) The water in the kloof is drinking water for:
A) ourselves (as in the climbers who will be climbing there, and the climbers who will be staying in the backpackers that we are intending on putting up - in time),
B) the farmer of Witsand, who's gate we drive through to get in to the area, and
C) other people who come from town to collect water at The Farm.

Mess with that water, and we will have another Bosch kloof happening. Even if we own the farm, if climbers on our land don't respect the area, and make people (including ourselves) sick, we will be shut down.
So make sure that you, or anyone else, does not mess in the kloof.
Any litter or food left behind will damage the area and again, if anything happens with the water, the climbers will be blamed for it.
Be good people, and take everything you've brought up back down.

We will put in a toilet up there but, for that we will need approved plans, and various other logistics, which will take quite a while. In the meantime, please use the toilets at the cottages, which are only 15min walk from the main crag.

2) We can't be responsible for anyone's safety on the property. Climbing has inherent dangers which we all take upon ourselves when we step off the ground. Please take responsibility for yourselves.
We obviously want the bolts to be safe for everyone, and of course we will be climbing those routes ourselves, so safety is definitely a top priority for us. We will then need every climber on the routes to report bolts that are starting to look dodgy, and we can sort those out before they become hazardous. But we can only make sure bolts are secure if we know about them.


To climb at The Farm:
1. Email: thefarmroute62@gmail.com and tell us your name, surname, date you will be going and how many people will be going. This will help us keep track of the number of people climbing on our property.
2. At this stage there is no charge for climbing but we might be asking a small fee of R20 just to go towards the bolts and general maintenance of the path etc. or R100 for an annual membership.
3. Unfortunately, you can't stay on the property yet, since we have not built anything as yet, but there will be soon we hope!


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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:29 pm 
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Awesome guys! Great initiative, wishing you much success with this venture. Yet another reason to head out east from slaapstad! :-)


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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:45 pm 
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Great! Another climbing destination!

I applaud your decision to encourage routes below 20. More introductory routes can only be a good thing!

You may want to decide whether you're a trad. venue or a sport venue or, at the very least, denote trad. sectors and sport sectors on your land to keep the routes separate. Call it apartheid if you must but those topos show trad. lines immediately adjacent to sport lines - in one case, even crossing a sport line. You might as well bolt them because they ain't trad.


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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:01 pm 
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Finally an alternative in Montagu :mrgreen:

goodluck guys, see you guys soon:D

peace

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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:27 pm 
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I disagree with Xcharlie about trad and sport next to each other. Why waste good steel fouling up a crack line. Sure you will get some encroachment of bolts that are reachable from the trad lines but so what really? Nice to have the option of doing both at the same crag really. If you don't try to squeeze too many lines too close together it can work well. If the trad climbs are single pitch under 35m maybe consider adding lower offs to them then they become accessible to people who would like to top-rope but don't have the gear/skills for trad leading.

Im down to come and open some easy lines there! Hope to see y'all soon.

PS is the pic of 'Eagles Folly' at the Farm?


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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
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XMod wrote:
PS is the pic of 'Eagles Folly' at the Farm?


Eagles Folly is on the buttress next to Cogmans

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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:01 am 
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Sorry for the delay in response! I have been out on The Farm renovating a spot to stay other than my Caravan :afro:

XMod wrote:
I disagree with Xcharlie about trad and sport next to each other. Why waste good steel fouling up a crack line. Sure you will get some encroachment of bolts that are reachable from the trad lines but so what really? Nice to have the option of doing both at the same crag really. If you don't try to squeeze too many lines too close together it can work well. If the trad climbs are single pitch under 35m maybe consider adding lower offs to them then they become accessible to people who would like to top-rope but don't have the gear/skills for trad leading.

Im down to come and open some easy lines there! Hope to see y'all soon.

PS is the pic of 'Eagles Folly' at the Farm?


Thanks for the interest and words of encouragement! It would be awsome if you could come through and put up some easy routes! In terms of the Trad routs and having lower off points. Most of the Trad routes at the moment have lower offs, and I will be happy to supply lower off points for future trad routes.


Xharlie wrote:
Great! Another climbing destination!

I applaud your decision to encourage routes below 20. More introductory routes can only be a good thing!

You may want to decide whether you're a trad. venue or a sport venue or, at the very least, denote trad. sectors and sport sectors on your land to keep the routes separate. Call it apartheid if you must but those topos show trad. lines immediately adjacent to sport lines - in one case, even crossing a sport line. You might as well bolt them because they ain't trad.


Xharlie: We were really hoping to increase the number of introductory routes because we would really love to get more people into climbing! It is for this reason that we would like to remain both a Trad and a Sport destination. I know that it is a sensitive subject regarding bolts next to a trad route and if at all possible we will try segregate it. If there are one or two routes that have bolts near by it will be a good training ground for people wanting to learn how to lead trad and have an escape route (I guess it wont be pure trad then). The solution to this of course is that you come to The Farm and put up some trad routes! We are wanting to keep the trad that is on The Farm, trad so I dont feel comfortable bolting anything that is already a trad route.

Forket wrote:
Finally an alternative in Montagu :mrgreen:

goodluck guys, see you guys soon:D

peace

Ebert


Ebert: Hope to see you on The Farm! Just let us know when you would like to come and scout some routes!


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 Post subject: Re: "The Farm" Montagu
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:40 am 
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It's really great that Jason and Jennifer picked up this property :thumleft: Otherwise we may have lost the possibility to climb there altogether!

With regards to the trad lines, it's great to have more of them and if you see the trad lines for yourself, you would probably agree that they should not be bolted - most (if not all) offer good gear placements.

Also, I'm pretty sure that topropes can be setup on all of the trad lines via the sport routes.

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