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Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:47 am
by yvettecloete
Hi

Does anyone here actually use Petzl ANGE Finesse L quickdraws for sport climbing? Are they suitable and comfortable for sport climbing or are they mainly for trad?

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:04 am
by Cliff
I have a few and use them quiet often for sport. They take a little time to get used to but then become very easy to use.

I do find though they work better for trad.

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:06 am
by Nic Le Maitre
Hi Yvette

I've only ever used mine for trad (but that is because I have a set of sport quickdraws), but I cannot see any reason not to use them for sport, that snag free nose is great and they are so light compared to most solid gate quickdraws.

Urbanclimber liked them too: http://www.urbanclimbermag.com/themag/g ... finesse_l/

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:32 am
by yvettecloete
thanks guys! anyone using BD Livewires or Hoodwires? which quickdraws win the big prize for the BEST sport climbing draw. ever.
? :-)

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:51 am
by burgman
The most affordable ones.

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:57 am
by thomsonza
Haha, I'm going with burg on this one.

Most definitely the most affordable ones... however, my finger almost always gets caught in the wild country draws... i've never figured out why... so i stay away from them. Unless of course they are a lot cheaper :)

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:01 am
by proze
yvettecloete wrote:which quickdraws win the big prize for the BEST sport climbing draw. ever.
? :-)
Petzl Spirit, hands down, no argument.

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:16 am
by Nic Le Maitre
Agree totally with Proze. Petzl Spirit FTW. The Ange L are supposed to be better. What's not to like?

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:23 am
by DavidWade
I will seccond that, Petzl Spirit Express for the win!

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:08 pm
by smityb
BD Freewire - good balance between cost and quality. I have them and they have been great

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm
by Gustav
I love my LiveWires! Nice thick sling (to grab :oops: ), nice and large openings and easy action with no lip on the top 'biner. Next best option is a Hoodwire - have to give to okes from BD some mileage for innovative design.

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:24 pm
by Cliff
Just something I have notices about the hood wires is that the little rubber that holds the rope side biner seems to break very easy and the biner moves around in the sling a lot.

This is not a big problem just very annoying

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:36 pm
by mountainmailorder
nice review on many different types of carabiners:
http://www.supertopo.com/reviews/gear.p ... =carabiner

and the Ange in particular:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=2593

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:27 pm
by Forket
The only thing i dont like about the petzl Ange s is the fact that the opening is so small:l no space for thumb and rope:l

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:48 pm
by yvettecloete
thanks everyone! the reason I posted here was because I couldn't really find any comparative reviews on the large ANGE vs BD.
I won't consider the small ones, and maybe want to make up my own large ones with a fat dogbone and 2 ANGE L carabiners... or a fat dogbone and 2 BD hoodwires... decisions decisions.
once again thank you for all the advice :)

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:34 am
by toejam
I had an Ange S, gave it away after the first use. Gate was just too small. Would make a nice key ring though....

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:10 pm
by yvettecloete
Some feedback:
I got some Petzl ANGE L Finesse draws in the end (for my birthday) and I must say they are AWESOME!
So after all the deliberation they were the winners, the gate has a great feel and I love the snag-free nose. They are VERY light which makes them great for trad, and I love gear that can multi-task. Of course the fact that they are beautiful doesn't hurt either :-)
Takes a few clips to get used to the new shape, but definitely worth it!
Thanks again for all the advice and input!

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:10 pm
by SuperM
Petzl Spirit - Sport :cheers:

Petzl Ange - Trad :bounce:

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:51 pm
by Old Smelly
The DMM Shield is still the best wiregate biner around :thumright NO QUESTION!

OK maybe its pricey but this biner & the Revolver are absolutely tops - if you have used them you will know why. Ok in sport you may get away with old fashioned hook nosed biners but even then its irritating.

The hoodwires are a cheap alternative & I am sure that the single wire Petzl's are safe but they rely on a spring to make them work, lacking the simplicity of the DMM's so even though I can read the bias, I still think one must consider the DMM's as they lead the field.

Then their is their new biners the Alpha Light & Trad.... :)

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:28 am
by ivan
Has anyone used or own the DMM Alpha sport?
Been reading up on them and they seem amazing as a sport draw!

Re: Quickdraws

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 am
by yvettecloete
beautiful. and functional. what more do you need?