Drifter, if it's not rope bags u'r crying about it's bolting. Let me ask you this: what have YOU done for the climbing community? What gives you a pedastil to stand on and cry about the way things are done?
I am just as scared on a grade 14 than on a grade 20 as if you fall 10 meters on a grade 14 or a grade 20 you will hurt yourself the same. It is just as dangerous to climb a grade 14 than a grade 20.
how are you going to fall 10 meters on a bolted route?...and personally, I'd rather fall 10 meters on a 20 as a 14 will most likely be off vertical which will hurt more....but seriously, dude, you have got to think about what you say BEFORE you post it. There are many climbers here who just laugh at the crap you come up with.
The day you feel you have to do a climb just to prove something to someone else I don't think you should be climbing
I wouldnt have climbed half the climbs I have done if it had not been for my partner's pushing me, and my ego not wanting to look like a dork in front of the ladies, and I feel that you are wrong. Sure, you prove things to yourself, but you have proven a lot to me already!
yeah, Fridge, your avatar is soooooo annoying