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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:53 pm 
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Going to the States in December and for 60 dollars bring back a Black Diamond C3 or two. What size would you recommend for SA?

00 9mm-13.7mm
0 10.7mm-15.5mm
1 12mm-18.8mm


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:01 am 
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Dude, if you can get C3's for $60, that's a pretty good deal. Do you mind me asking where exactly?

And as for which sizes, that's like asking how how many draws to take on a sport route - a question that will be answered for each route. You can't 'recommend a size for SA'.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:38 am 
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Bill is that you?

Seriously, what number do you recommend if I am only buying one?

Buying on backcountry.com or REi.com - 69 dollars


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:17 pm 
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I prefer Aliens to C3's but thats just me. The size depends on what else you've got. Whats your smallest regular cam? Then get the next size down from that. Its pointless having a full range of biggish cams, then a gap, then a very small one. In general you'll use the bigger small cams more, but will be glad to have the very small ones if you ever need them, cos usually nothing else will go. Very small cams are hard to place properly because you usually cant see the lobes properly so you dont know if its well-seated or not.


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I would agree with Hector in saying I prefer the Aliens, which are 4 lobed devices as apposed to the C3's that are 3 lobed. My Aliens have been indisposable on any route I've climbed.
If you must buy C3's, which are too great camming devices, then look at getting the 0 and 1 sizes (green and red respectively). They match the sizes of Aliens that I use most often.
You might also consider getting the Metolius Ultralight TCU. They are more than $10 cheaper and have a slightly wider camming range than the C3's. They are also a little less fiddley to use and repairing damaged trigger cables is easier. Sizes 0 and 1 (purple and blue respectively) will do for a start.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:17 pm 
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No man, not Bill.

$69 isn't bad, check out
http://www.acmeclimbing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=8
for their protection section.

Something to ponder, if you're in a position to shell out the cash...
If you buy this package:
http://www.acmeclimbing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=496,
you get:
    8 BD C4 cams (sizes #.3 to #4)
    7 wired BD hexes (sizes #4 - #10)
    10 BD wired stoppers (sizes #4 - #13)
Barring the dudes at customs crapping their pants, the whole lot costs US$600 (@ 6.80) = R4080. The exact same range of gear but from Metolius is $40 more expensive. Buy this whole lot from the cheapest SA supplier, and you'll spend R6997 (excluding postage, pending my ability to add correctly) and ignoring the fact that you'll have to fly a bit of weight back...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:54 pm 
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I've got the C3's and I have found that I use the green one the most its the 0 the 00 would be a good choice too.

I'm the opposite to Hector and Gareth I much prefer the C3's.


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