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 Post subject: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:47 am 
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Hi Guys,

I am a beginner at climbing but have been climbing Telco Towers for 8 years now. I have not set foot on a mountain wall before. But before I do, I want to set a goals list for what I want to achieve in the years to come when entering the sport.

With your guys knowledge I would like to set up a list of big walls to climb, different in technique and location. Something like 1. The wall at your house 10. El Capitan.

Would someone be able to help me but a list togheter?

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Divan Strydom

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:57 pm 
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Check out this book - well worth it:
http://www.climb.co.za/shop/order_capevertical.php

I'm guessing that if your're comparing to El Cap you'll have all the places like Yellowwood, Blouberg, Tafelberg and a bunch more ranking fairly high up, but I would not really know, actually Snort should answer this one - I think as he's climbed all those places and much more.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:34 pm 
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Is this a list of routes to dream about climbing or routes to actually climb?

Do you include alpine routes or is it all just big wall stuff? (North Face of the Eiger vs The Nose for instance)

Do you include big mountains as well? (South Face of Everest? Gasherbrum IV?)

These three things will affect your list greatly.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:27 am 
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply's.

The list will be of routes to actually climb. It will consist of only big walls and of which El Cap and Half Dome being the last two. But I need to fill the list according to experience gained, so for starters I will do basic stuff and as my experience grows I will go on to do Blouberg and Spitzkoppe est. But not having knowledge on how experience progresses and difficulty levels of the walls and different routes I have asked for you guys to help but such a list togeheter, but it must be realistic and it HAS to end with El Cap.

It is all about setting goals for the next big thing to do. But in doing that I want to know what I am up againts. This might takes years for me to complete, but once I reach El Cap I will be at peace.

Divan

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:43 am 
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sjoe dude a very long list could come out; no ways you're going to climb routes 1 to 8 and then be ready for half dome and el cap ....... my advice is get into multi-pitch climbing and the list will take shape over time. utimately it is about the route and the wall - there are routes at fairly benign locations that will take you a lifetime to master. go climb some easy routes in the magalies and at wellington's dome to get a feel for it. (blouberg is not a good place to start!)

some good places to start multi pitch climbing locally:
magaliesberg - trad (nwp)
wellington's dome - sport (limpopo)
eagle mountain - sport (near harrismith)
table mountain - trad (CT)
paarl rock - sport (paarl)
wolfberg -trad (cederberg)
cogman's buttress - sport (montagu)

when you graduated at these locations you can start thinking of:
blouberg; yellowwood; blydepoort; tafelberg (cederberg) etc.

enjoy!

ps: you may want to take a look at snort's 10000-hours-to-become-a-master post. go climb many many many easier routes and work your way up.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:52 am 
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Thank you for the advise, definitley making notes as you guys are posting.

Divan

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:48 am 
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These will give you some great stories to tell when you are old and have many grandchildren to entertain:
Oceans of Fear
Cerro Torre
North Face of Ulvetanna
Moonlight Buttress
North Face of the Eiger
Sail Peak on Baffin
The Troll Wall
The Great Trango Tower
Half Dome
El Capitan


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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:04 am 
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I think Divans idea was that he could have a list in more or less asceding order to tick off his progress to El Cap, but not in a row so eg end of year 1 can climb big wall x (something like a country route like Fleur de Muis - 14 I think) then end of year 2 climb big wall y etc until in 10 years and 10 000 hours later he can clap EL Cap. Time line might be more or less but i think thats the idea.

I think Shorti's list might come in after that initial 10.

I think this is a great idea for motivation and a cool way to get on the big classics.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:24 am 
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Wayne,

That is exactly the concept I had in mind. I understand the time it will take and its a reality in my mind. Slowly progressing and building up for each big wall on the list.

I also think that this type of list will be great for any person wanting to join me on this journey or others for others wanting to do the same on their own journey.

If I can get my mind around it my body will folow.

Divan

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 Post subject: Re: Setting Goals
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:16 pm 
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One of the old dusty traddies are going to be your best bet to compose a goal list in ascending order. In fact try to get tied in on the other end of their rope for a bit.

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