Hi There,

On the Ledge above the Atlantic Abseils,
there is a large metal spike, I use to rappel down
to the ledge above the abseil bolts.

Recently someone crushed the spike closer to the wall,
which could make pulling your rope directly possible (easier).
They also jammed the top with a rock? and nicked my biners!!

I would like my carabiners back!!

Also, the person who left that fixed rope there.
Pls, take it down. It really isn't that hard a down climb
and you can rap off the spike.

Thanks
D

Hey Dave, lose your cable car ticket. It isn't that hard to walk up and its good for you. And you won't have all these problems.

Snorty I will gladly walk up and down if you carry my rack

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AndyDavies

Sure, where do you want me to carry it to? Why? It's good for you.

Charlie,

Work and play are two different things.
Walking up with some clients,
with others The CableWay and rappels.

I'm sure it's the same with you.
Anesthetist and general anesthetic for some patients,
with other a local and loads of dormacon?

The rope is a bit of an eye-sore, though.
You can see it from the CableWay's platforms.

If anyone is in favour of it, say so.
I just don't see the purpose, you've got to get your ropes out anyways.

As far as my carabiners go.
They did serve a purpose.

I'm getting a little tired of it.
Lost more than a few cordalettes, above Bombay Duck.
(Till I fixed that chock-stone rope to the anchors)
Several nuts with sling and biners, from above the pipe abseils.
(Till the bongs were replaced)

These aren't newbie climbers!
This gear was all in good order and served a purpose.
I mean if you don't like it there, say so and return it.
Or
Am I wrong and this is the etic?
If I see some gear on the mountain, I'm welcome to it!
Then, those nuts and biners of Joe's are looking pretty tempting.
especially since I'm now short two carabiners.

Hi Dave,
we rapped down on Tuesday and Woodys rope got well & truly jammed in at the base of the peg! I had to knock a wedge in to release the rope. Sorry to hear about your biners, they were already gone when we got there.
Too often gear gets lifted when its left for the good of the climbing community. Sucks big time!

I would normally downclimb that section, before the rope was placed. Personally dont get my rope out until going off the Atlantic corner.

dave, i saw your biner on the rusty eyebolt abseil a week ago, and was wondering why someone would trust that thing. looked like someone had forgotten it because we didnt see or hear anyone climbing below us all day. so at the end of the day i must say i was tempted to collect.

we definitely used the fixed purple line to get down to the first set of bolts.
i always find that scramble down a bit difficult with a heavy pack and approach shoes - i like to stash my staff far down so that no non-climber can get to it.
yes you can use your own rope. but you can use your own gear for abseiling too, and not use bolts or rusty pegs. so this fixed rope makes it safer and much faster.
so for the record no i don't have a problem with leaving the fixed rope there. i vote in favour of it.
and if you use the rusty bolt higher up as an abseil you obviously dont race down the scramble either.....

Thanks Karl,

Sounds like they accomplished nothing, then.
Except take my kit.

Robert,
You want to know why I trust a huge construction reinforcement,
and then wrap off 10mm bolts?
(If you're looking for redundancy you can slip a 2 camalot in lower down.)
As opposed to the rope... wrapped around some shattered rock,
You have to scramble to anyway.

- I let my clients do a belayed abseil off the spike and cam,
Then I wrap off the spike and use it to belay my clients while they walk
to the edge of the world, were the atlantic abseils are located -

There were two carabiners last time I was there,
but, have left one there for quite a while.
So that climbers would notice the spike and not use the rope.

So, I hope you don't mind a little rant.
(My 2 carabiners worth)
There's always a huge outcry when someones car gets broken into,
Or someone gets mugged along a path.
If Robert is tempted to take a biner if it's left behind, Why not a backpack?
There's gear on a route that's been left behind.
Can I take that.

Edit to my last posts.

They didn't smash the spike any closer to the wall.
Seemed that way, because the rock 'wedge' in now jammed at the top.
By the scaring on the wall, Kahl must have given the 'wedge' quite a beating.

So they nicked those biners over the weekend.
I'll see if I can get a Mailon big enough.

I would still like my carabiners back.