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 Post subject: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:05 pm 
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Real Name: Albert Smit
I'm looking to get my hands on some Trango Big Bro's; the tubular type of pro that will give me some peace of mind in my love / hate relationship with off-widths.
Anyone know who imports Trango into SA?
Or anyone with some that wants to flog it?


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:50 pm 
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We used to import Trango. Sold a Bigbro about once a year. We don't go to the SEXPO any more so we closed down our Sex Toys section. If you reeeeaallly want to have a relationship with one we can order one for you....
PS have you seen Wide Boyz?


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:07 pm 
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BD Camelot # 6? I suspect that is the largest pro available on the RSA market- unless someone knows something I don't? # 4 ranges from 114mm to 195mm, while the big pro 4 is 191mm- 305mm, so unless you are needing this largest size there are cams available on the market.

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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Problem with the cams are size, weight and price.

MMO: how long will it take to get some into the country?


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:56 pm 
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Off widths grab me (aalot) & so have acumulated the kit (most spoilt climber in SA).

Bros are a novelty. You won't use them nearly as much as you think. Cams way out play bros. Bros will most likely cost you more than cams & fricking beastly to carry.
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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:32 pm 
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Albert,

A BIG BRO will cost you same or more vs. a cam.
About R800 for the smallest one, R2,000 for the biggest one. ETA would be 2 months (we import stuff via ocean shipping).

I do think you should listen to the advice of Warren and Derek.
I have done a fair bit of off-width climbing myself too. You aren't ever going to trust a dodgy BIG BRO like you would a bomber cam. But if your crack is so wide that the biggest camalot won't fit then you are going to have to resort to a big big bro.

I am really curious what's up there in the Nieuwoudtville mountains?
The only crack I know where a big cam is required is Energy Crisis @ Wolfberg, and the big BD #6 works fine higher up.

- Robert


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Oh...& placing bros is a total bi**h.

oh & any knock on the wrong side of the bro as you fall...pop!

Cams anytime


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:45 pm 
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mountainmailorder wrote:
But if your crack is so wide that the biggest camalot won't fit ......
... you should probably avoid it like the plague!

Fixed :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:18 am 
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Mine keeps extending at innapropriate times...causing some serious awkwardness...very difficult to retract it in motion so to speak :jocolor:

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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:12 am 
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:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:12 pm 
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Ja, I suppose the crux of the matter here is that big cracks are a problem... :roll:

Thanks for the advise about the use and placements of the Bro's Dereck! I think my facsination with them might be to do with the curiosity factor, about the tools you don't have and the things you haven't tried..

I do have quite a couple of the big size cams, but after this input I think I'll double up on them, rather than try the big bro, unless there's some forgotten ones floating around in someone's attic that they need to get rid of...


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:34 pm 
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...some of the entertainment on the backdoor of Nieuwoudtville, much closer than Energy Crisis...


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:16 pm 
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Wow...looks super cool.

No harm in having them especialy if they are not badly priced, but first double up on the big cams.


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:29 am 
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noordkaapaap wrote:
...some of the entertainment on the backdoor of Nieuwoudtville, much closer than Energy Crisis...
Hey! That looks like "Waterval Storieboek"... right? Ossem to see other people climbing there.


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Die Storieboek, inderdaad!!


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:54 am 
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Hey Albert, have you checked out the waterfall?


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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:04 pm 
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He could hardly have missed it, the waterfall is slap bang next to the route...

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 Post subject: Re: BIG BRO's
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Justin

The waterfall in your pic is the local one at Nieuwoudtville, spectacular little karoo gorge with the water dropping 60m. The rock unfortunately is real chossy, very much like the white Free State sandstone. So apart from highlining, abseiling, bouldering and other vertical fun, there's no real climbing potential.

The "Waterval Storieboek" is at Gifberg though, 50km down the road..


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