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 Post subject: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:02 am 
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Advice please

I am looking for a new bag for sport climbing in the range of 45 - 50 litres. needs to be able to handle a 60m rope in a tarp/bag (trango cord trapper ?), 2 harnesses, 1 pair shoes, 16 draws, water bottles, etc. would like to get helmet in bag as well, but could clip it on outside if necessary. I will be progressing into trad in the near future and need the bag to be suitable for this as well.

I've been looking at the Mammut neon gear 45, Black diamond Duffle and Arc'teryx Miura 45. My only problem is that due to back problems, I need a bag with good support and a proper waist belt, not just a webbing strap. It needs to be comfortable enough to take on longer hikes (+5 km) to get to climbs.

At the moment I am looking at a kelty redwing 50 http://www.kelty.com/p-673-redwing-50.aspx. Has anyone had any experience with this bag or any other suggestions?

It was also suggested to use a military style assault pack as they are designed for multiple day hikes with heavy weight, open full front panel, and have a main compartment in the range I'm looking at. Example:
http://www.511tactical.com/rush-72-backpack.html
http://www.511tactical.com/responder-84-als-backpack.html

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:06 am 
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Black Diamond Epic, awesome bag, really comfortable and doesn't make your shirt ride up or push your pants down :thumleft:

http://eu.blackdiamondequipment.com/en/climbing-packs/epic-45-pack-BD681086COALSM_1.html

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:22 am 
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I bought one of these locally-made North Ridge bags:
http://north-ridge.co.za/product/jetstream-cabin/ (I think that's the one.)

It is awesome. Great quality. 45L. Fits sport gear rope + draws &c nicely. My friend has one too: he uses it for trad. I think it was six hundred and something rand or so. From Orca.

It comes with a detachable (velcro) tarp. But is otherwise quite simple and minimalistic.


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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:52 am 
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Osprey? Great bags + the Almighty Guarantee
http://www.adventureinc.co.za/product/exos-46/

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:33 am 
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Thanks guys.

I took a look at the bags mentioned:
The North ridge jetstream is good size and accessibility, but has no back support or solid waistbelt which I require. a great alternative to the black diamond demon duffle.
The Black Diamond Epic is great, would prefer to get something with front loading as opposed to top loading, but this was really comfortable and am considering it.
The Osprey exos, I am still looking for 1 to take a look at.

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:40 am 
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Mammut and Arcteryx bags aren't brought into the country.
Check out our selection of Osprey, First Ascent and Black Diamond Packs:
https://www.mountainmailorder.co.za/ind ... &catId=179


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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:51 am 
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Mountain Mail Order.

Thanks, I have your site on my list, and have bought a while ago through a friend when I started climbing. Was very happy with the service, but I still need to see a bag and try it before I can place the order online.

As far as Mammut and Arcteryx, I am an importer/distributer and specialize in smaller item and quantity consolidated importing. I still prefer to buy locally if products are dealer supported in the country and prices aren't ridiculously over inflated. But if I cant find locally what Im looking for, I generally can find it internationally and import it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Pyro wrote:
I still prefer to buy locally if products are dealer supported in the country and prices aren't ridiculously over inflated. But if I cant find locally what I'm looking for, I generally can find it internationally and import it.


Osprey and BD bags are certainly locally supported, due to the Rand Exchange/Rate I would buy sooner than later!!

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 Post subject: Re: Sport Climbing Bag
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:37 pm 
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Osprey is available locally and we do offer the full support and aftercare service for the brand, which include the ALL MIGHTY GUARANTEE as Justin mentioned. In short we will repair or replace damage to any of our packs regardless of when, where you bought it or how the damaged happened.

A fair range of the Osprey packs are available, suitable packs might be:
Variant 37 or 52 (highly rated climbing packs)
http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/group/ver ... ant_series
Exos
http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/s ... ht/exos_48
Talon 33 or 44
http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/product/m ... talon_44_1

The guys at Mountain Mail Order or Drifter's (cape town + JHB) are all good shops to see bags and get advice, but DueSouth also stocks a range of the packs countrywide.


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