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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:21 pm 
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Details here :arrow: http://www.climbing.co.za/2014/03/casti ... film-work/

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:05 pm 
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Beware there is a lot of PTW involved with filming..... Get money up front.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:09 pm 
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SNORT wrote:
.... Get money up front.


The film/commercial industry will never ever work that way. Three months to get paid usually, but the money-for-jam (for lead characters) is totally worth the wait.

Go girls go.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:51 pm 
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Not worth it in my view. And I am talking about the casting. You can spend a day there and then they tell you we will call you don't call us.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:03 pm 
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SNORT wrote:
Not worth it in my view. …..


Agreed, probably not worth it when you earn orthopaedic surgeon rates, and part own a gym. :wink:

A dirtbag climber girl might however find it most worthwhile.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:25 pm 
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There was a time that I was rock bottom dirt bag seriously poor dude. Around 6 years! Pronutro and pan cakes was all I could afford for weeks at a time. Paid off student loans for more than 20 years!

Been there and done that when I was a student hanging around while film companies wasted my time for no pay. Margaret my wife worked for a film producer for a year or so, and I shared digs with a grip for 2 years too and I know the industry quite well.

I am warning young people that the film industry can really waste one's time. They dangle carrots and nothing comes of it for that vast majority of aspirants.

One of our employees came close to losing his job at CR because he missed his shifts when a film shoot did not stick to their deal with him and he was in a serious jam.

Don't fool yourself, the film industry is generally ruthlessly abusive of people's time and often runs rough shod over people's feelings as well. Route setting or belaying kids at CR or doing a waitron job could be a lot better return on your time. If your time has no value - go for it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:13 pm 
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Have to say that I've had only positive experiences.

The film Co got in touch with me with regards to payment and here is what they are paying:

Leads Payment:
Day fee: R6000
Usage: R34 000

Featured Artists Payment:
Day fee: R4000
Usage: R16 000

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:30 pm 
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I did a bit of casting help at Varsity and here was my take:

- Extras / library-shoot work that is paid per hour without an audition: Great
(R500 - R2000 per day)

- Any role where there is auditioning: Waste of time. They always insist that they need a climber and then always choose the professional model. Often the agencies are paid to audition a quota of people. That quota is often in the 100s or thousands, often across several continents.

Unless you are full-time in the industry placing lots of bets, contract only. No contingent remuneration.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:11 pm 
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Interesting to hear Ant. I did an advert in the early 90's and got paid very well for a mornings work.
Also did background stuff and got paid less.

I know a local climber who did a film last year, he went on to India for more filming and got paid well (because of the number of days work).
This was the call for that role: http://www.climbing.co.za/2012/10/male- ... film-work/

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:50 am 
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Was there an audition, or was he selected based only on the CV and 2 pics required?

My experience was that it's the audition that kills the viability for normal non-film-industry people.


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