Yesterday I opened a new route on the Middle Buttress at Underside (this is the buttress between the Killers and Beginners Walls that was previously not named). The route starts about 10m right of Life’s Too Short. It is 7 bolts long and really steep for the grade. Very tall people can avoid the unexpected crux – enjoy...

When you were young 21 [7B] – FA Guy Holwill 19 Nov 2006

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Hi Guy

Thanks for the update. I have not managed to find the underside.... How exactly does one get there?

kyle, please read the answer to your previous post asking the same question. If you cannot find the Underside with that description then you will have to use a mountain guide.

Hi Douglas

Sorry I must have missed the reply to my revious post... will check it out. No need for a guid I assure you.

Kyle

Went to the Underside a few days ago and yeah, I found \"When you were young\" to be pretty darn steep for 21... Has some great potential for side-on pics though

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Anybody find an ATC and a large screwgate karabiner at the base of this route? If so, they're mine and please let me know (leave your number here). Thanks, Douglas