Whooaaa! Agreed on not climbing/stealing other people’s projects etc, but chopping bolts for it to inevitably be rebolted later! Let’s not take drilling holes into rock lightly. Once you make a hole in the rock, its there forever! Bolting is hard work and I know Greg has done a lot of it. Thank you Greg, for your self reverence and sense of humour.
Respect, consideration and an enquiry before you jump onto someone’s project? If this is done, then there shouldn't be a problem? (aah, in a perfect world)
MCSA membership: I agree with Guy's comment on \"have you tried joining a golf club\" or any other club (besides the treehouse club).
The Mountain Club being elitist: Yes and no, climbers are elitist by default, its an elitist sport, maybe not in France, but pretty much everywhere else in the world you will hear people say \"you have to be barmy/hardcore/different to climb that!!!\"
Between climbers, I haven't seen any MCSA members brushing people aside saying \"you're not worthy\" (every climber who is a non-member should be seen as potential member surely?
Two months ago I found myself (accidentally) at an MCSA discussion regarding the MCSA and it attracting new members, etc (there was a big guy at the door so we couldn't just bolt out
The discussion proved interesting, some members thought this and others thought that... what I discovered (hold on this might be ground breaking)... the club needs to be changed from within.
There is a huge infrastructure there! Power in numbers and all that stuff. Make no mistake, the MCSA piss me off from time to time. But if no one is there to voice their objection, then the subject that piss's us all off will be passed and we can continue to b!tch and moan about how the MCSA does nothing or does it wrong!
Its not testing karma, it tests your level of bureaucracy tolerance perhaps (when last where you at Home Affairs?), however, once you’re in - you’re in! And get a sick note from your mom to say you couldn’t make the AGM… where’s your imagination (you might even enjoy yourself!!) and make it up on a Friday night if you have to!
I also just want to go climb, but there are land owners, CNC, etc who get pissed off by dumb people doing dumb things and then someone has to go and remedy the situation. History shows that most times those persons want to deal with an organised body.
(Why can't we all just get on like the Joburg section does
Right, everyone, now that I have finished my splurb 'that has seemingly become a mini crusade' You know who I am, don't go sabotaging my rope now