Locally manufactured rope VS internation brands

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Locally manufactured rope VS internation brands

Post by FPMorgs »

Good morning all.

i'm hoping to pick the brains of this climbing community.

Background info:
I've been looking at getting rope for mostly top rope climbing but i would eventual be using it for spots and trad climbing.
The rope i really liked was the Mammut 9.9 crag workhorse for durability and safety.

Now for the question:
I found some local rope manufactures:
https://www.southernropes.com/safety-rope-access
https://www.ropesforafrica.co.za/collec ... -and-climb
They both seem to be making a similar rope Dynamic access rope, 100% nylon kernmantle rope with CE Certification and EN 892 Compliance.

Mammut 9.9mm 60m Cost R4900
DAR 11mm 60m Cost R2520
Has anyone had experience with Southern Rock or Ropes for africa.
i'm trying to save a buck and support local.

any ideas or feedback would be amazing.

May the hold be with you;)
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Post by raphaeltube »

I didn't know they had dynamic ropes 'till now, but they look ok.
No experience though.

It's not really fair to compare to the Mammut. -very different rope.
For a start, the local rope is more than double the weight.
-definitely not suitable for Trad, but then hte Mammut wouldn't be great either.

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I don't see any mention of UIAA on either website, so would be hesitant.
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Not local, but for decent cheap rope, check out Decathlon:
https://www.decathlon.co.za/3819-climbi ... ing%20rope

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Shot for the feedback. :thumleft:
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Post by Marshall1 »

Hi Freddie

Howzit going? Hope you are getting out climbing.

This is not really a question of local vs international. Its more about application.

Those local rope suppliers are manufacturing for rope access industry. They are dynamic static ropes. This means a static rope with limited stretch. Limited shock absorption. These must not be used for rock climbing leading as they could lead to equipment failures & harness injuries (not stretchy enough for a soft landing). Top roping with them can be ok (not recommended), BUT there must not be excessive slack. This means that the belayer must be very attentive & there must be no loop of slack.

I can spot you a good used rope that you can get started with. Lets chat via Whatzap.
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Post by Nic Le Maitre »

The Southern Rope DAR is a dynamic rope for lead climbing, it's EN 892 certified, the same standard as other lead climbing dynamic ropes from European manufacturers.

However, climbing has moved on from 11mm ropes because of the weight. It will however probably be very durable and will work for sport climbing at the entry level.

Personally, I'd rather look out for a second hand single rope in good condition.

For trad in SA you're going to want double ropes, especially as a beginner. Double ropes because many of the crags are abseil access or abseil descent, and the abseil stations are ~50m apart. Double ropes are also really helpful to reduce rope drag on our typically wandering trad routes. Rope drag will be one of the biggest hurdles to overcome as a beginner until you learn how to reduce it as much as possible through experience. Once you have that experience, you can contemplate trad climbing on one rope.
Happy climbing
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