Quickdraws

yvettecloete · Post by **yvettecloete** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:47 am

Hi

Does anyone here actually use Petzl ANGE Finesse L quickdraws for sport climbing? Are they suitable and comfortable for sport climbing or are they mainly for trad?

Cliff · Post by **Cliff** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:04 am

I have a few and use them quiet often for sport. They take a little time to get used to but then become very easy to use.

I do find though they work better for trad.

Nic Le Maitre · Post by **Nic Le Maitre** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:06 am

Hi Yvette

I've only ever used mine for trad (but that is because I have a set of sport quickdraws), but I cannot see any reason not to use them for sport, that snag free nose is great and they are so light compared to most solid gate quickdraws.

Urbanclimber liked them too: http://www.urbanclimbermag.com/themag/g ... finesse_l/

yvettecloete · Post by **yvettecloete** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:32 am

thanks guys! anyone using BD Livewires or Hoodwires? which quickdraws win the big prize for the BEST sport climbing draw. ever.
? :-)

burgman · Post by **burgman** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:51 am

The most affordable ones.

thomsonza · Post by **thomsonza** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:57 am

Haha, I'm going with burg on this one.

Most definitely the most affordable ones... however, my finger almost always gets caught in the wild country draws... i've never figured out why... so i stay away from them. Unless of course they are a lot cheaper

proze · Post by **proze** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:01 am

yvettecloete wrote:which quickdraws win the big prize for the BEST sport climbing draw. ever.
? :-)

Petzl Spirit, hands down, no argument.

Nic Le Maitre · Post by **Nic Le Maitre** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:16 am

Agree totally with Proze. Petzl Spirit FTW. The Ange L are supposed to be better. What's not to like?

DavidWade · Post by **DavidWade** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:23 am

I will seccond that, Petzl Spirit Express for the win!

smityb · Post by **smityb** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:08 pm

BD Freewire - good balance between cost and quality. I have them and they have been great

Gustav · Post by **Gustav** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm

I love my LiveWires! Nice thick sling (to grab

), nice and large openings and easy action with no lip on the top 'biner. Next best option is a Hoodwire - have to give to okes from BD some mileage for innovative design.

Cliff · Post by **Cliff** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:24 pm

Just something I have notices about the hood wires is that the little rubber that holds the rope side biner seems to break very easy and the biner moves around in the sling a lot.

This is not a big problem just very annoying

mountainmailorder · Post by **mountainmailorder** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:36 pm

nice review on many different types of carabiners:
http://www.supertopo.com/reviews/gear.p ... =carabiner

and the Ange in particular:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=2593

Forket · Post by **Forket** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:27 pm

The only thing i dont like about the petzl Ange s is the fact that the opening is so small:l no space for thumb and rope:l

yvettecloete · Post by **yvettecloete** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:48 pm

thanks everyone! the reason I posted here was because I couldn't really find any comparative reviews on the large ANGE vs BD.
I won't consider the small ones, and maybe want to make up my own large ones with a fat dogbone and 2 ANGE L carabiners... or a fat dogbone and 2 BD hoodwires... decisions decisions.
once again thank you for all the advice

toejam · Post by **toejam** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:34 am

I had an Ange S, gave it away after the first use. Gate was just too small. Would make a nice key ring though....

yvettecloete · Post by **yvettecloete** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:10 pm

Some feedback:
I got some Petzl ANGE L Finesse draws in the end (for my birthday) and I must say they are AWESOME!
So after all the deliberation they were the winners, the gate has a great feel and I love the snag-free nose. They are VERY light which makes them great for trad, and I love gear that can multi-task. Of course the fact that they are beautiful doesn't hurt either :-)
Takes a few clips to get used to the new shape, but definitely worth it!
Thanks again for all the advice and input!

SuperM · Post by **SuperM** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:10 pm

Petzl Spirit - Sport

Petzl Ange - Trad

Old Smelly · Post by **Old Smelly** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:51 pm

The DMM Shield is still the best wiregate biner around

NO QUESTION!

OK maybe its pricey but this biner & the Revolver are absolutely tops - if you have used them you will know why. Ok in sport you may get away with old fashioned hook nosed biners but even then its irritating.

The hoodwires are a cheap alternative & I am sure that the single wire Petzl's are safe but they rely on a spring to make them work, lacking the simplicity of the DMM's so even though I can read the bias, I still think one must consider the DMM's as they lead the field.

Then their is their new biners the Alpha Light & Trad....

ivan · Post by **ivan** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:28 am

Has anyone used or own the DMM Alpha sport?
Been reading up on them and they seem amazing as a sport draw!

yvettecloete · Post by **yvettecloete** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 am

beautiful. and functional. what more do you need?

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